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Averting environmental crisis will require changes in the way we think about many things. Join Frances Moore Lappé, who revolutionized the way we think about food with her classic Diet for a Small Planet, as she discusses her new work, Ecomind, a re-evaluation of environmental thinking, with Susanne Freidberg, who urges us to take a fresh look at the implications of our hunger for pretty, cheap, food in Fresh: A Perishable History. Moderated by WBUR's Sacha Pfeiffer.